If James Bond is a Time Lord...
May. 15th, 2014 10:17 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
lonemagpieWhich the movie version definitely is, then...
I'd been thinking, while reading William Boyd's "Solo", that I'd love to see/write a Bond regeneration story (yeah, like they'd ever licence *that*!), and it struck me that something else that needs to be figured out for Time Lord Bond is which incarnation is which.
See, obviously Daniel Craig is the first incarnation, as he's the one who originally becomes a 00-ranked agent.
Connery, Lazenby, Moore and Dalton have to be in that order, as the first three of them share the same M, as do the last two (with the Robert Browning M), and Moneypenny. All four share the same Q. Moore has to follow Lazenby because both TSWLM and FYEO reference Tracy's death in OHMSS. This also means Diamonds Are Forever actually comes before OHMSS in the Connery Bond's personal timeline.
There's nothing to say there can't be other incarnations between them, though.
The Brosnan incarnation is an awkward fucker, because he's around at the same time as the Dalton one, offering the best chance for a Two Bonds story (the Goldeneye precredit sequence is set in 1986, the year before The Living Daylights.)
This leads to the question of whether he has access to his TARDIS. At some point he has to travel back from the 21st century to at least 1962, and since Brosnan is around at the same time as one of his other incarnations, that suggests a spot of time travel. (It's also necessary if you want to count NSNA as canon, since that means that post-NSNA in 1983 he has to travel back to 1969 for OHMSS...)
I think about this stuff too much, don't I?
But I still want a regeneration story, and a multi-Bond story!
Maybe the DB5 is his TARDIS - Well, the DB5 is definitely proof of timey-wimeyness, given that Craig has it in 2012, before it being issued to Connery in 1964...
Before anybody asks, M and Q are not Timeys - M is just the designation for the head of Service (in real life it's C, after Mansfield Cumming, so the M probably is named for him too), while Q simply stands for Quartermaster - also, Robert Browning appeared before becoming M, so is probably the same character, while Cleese's character became known as Q after his predecessor's retirement.
Moneypenny, OTOH, is up for grabs as a Time Lord, but it's as likely to be a family line.
Interestingly, the Judi Dench M in the three Craig films isn't necessarily the same one from the four Brosnan films... Since in Skyfall she was head of the Hong Kong station in 1997, while a different Judi Dench M was head of service at the same time! Twin sisters, obviously. Or clones. Orphan M.
And this is me sober...
Some fucker's going to make me write this pseudonymously, I can tell.
I'd been thinking, while reading William Boyd's "Solo", that I'd love to see/write a Bond regeneration story (yeah, like they'd ever licence *that*!), and it struck me that something else that needs to be figured out for Time Lord Bond is which incarnation is which.
See, obviously Daniel Craig is the first incarnation, as he's the one who originally becomes a 00-ranked agent.
Connery, Lazenby, Moore and Dalton have to be in that order, as the first three of them share the same M, as do the last two (with the Robert Browning M), and Moneypenny. All four share the same Q. Moore has to follow Lazenby because both TSWLM and FYEO reference Tracy's death in OHMSS. This also means Diamonds Are Forever actually comes before OHMSS in the Connery Bond's personal timeline.
There's nothing to say there can't be other incarnations between them, though.
The Brosnan incarnation is an awkward fucker, because he's around at the same time as the Dalton one, offering the best chance for a Two Bonds story (the Goldeneye precredit sequence is set in 1986, the year before The Living Daylights.)
This leads to the question of whether he has access to his TARDIS. At some point he has to travel back from the 21st century to at least 1962, and since Brosnan is around at the same time as one of his other incarnations, that suggests a spot of time travel. (It's also necessary if you want to count NSNA as canon, since that means that post-NSNA in 1983 he has to travel back to 1969 for OHMSS...)
I think about this stuff too much, don't I?
But I still want a regeneration story, and a multi-Bond story!
Maybe the DB5 is his TARDIS - Well, the DB5 is definitely proof of timey-wimeyness, given that Craig has it in 2012, before it being issued to Connery in 1964...
Before anybody asks, M and Q are not Timeys - M is just the designation for the head of Service (in real life it's C, after Mansfield Cumming, so the M probably is named for him too), while Q simply stands for Quartermaster - also, Robert Browning appeared before becoming M, so is probably the same character, while Cleese's character became known as Q after his predecessor's retirement.
Moneypenny, OTOH, is up for grabs as a Time Lord, but it's as likely to be a family line.
Interestingly, the Judi Dench M in the three Craig films isn't necessarily the same one from the four Brosnan films... Since in Skyfall she was head of the Hong Kong station in 1997, while a different Judi Dench M was head of service at the same time! Twin sisters, obviously. Or clones. Orphan M.
And this is me sober...
Some fucker's going to make me write this pseudonymously, I can tell.